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Posted on July 20 2022

Noticed that the temperature gage  at Lordville soared up over 76 yesterday.  Thought it strange as the temp started out at around 66 and should have been fine. A close look at the USGS graph  shows the problem as the jagged line turns into a straight line mid afternoon and heads towards the sky.  The gage is broken and currently out of service (at a critical time I might add). There is a big surge on the way down which is designed to take care of today's predicted 93 degree air temp.

Speaking of the surge, got caught on the wrong side of the river last night and was surprised by the fog, depth of the water and strength of the current coming across in the dark.  It also explained why both the sulfurs and fish quit early.

Yesterday fishing in the Sulfur Zone water was a pure delight. Standing in 45 degree water beats an air conditioner every time. Catching, however, was another story. The fish have upped their game in the last week and refusals, for me, now outnumber takes by at least ten to one. . Will be tying some new flies this morning.

Several questions / observations appeared in the comments on the last couple of posts so here are my thoughts. 

Jim N. - Asked what I consider downstream" for near dark fishing. In the article I said that water temp set the boundaries. You can fish anywhere that the water is below 70 degrees. Monday night when the rain started to come down in Deposit I headed downstream and actually fished a place on the BR way up high where the WB water had not yet mixed with the bathtub hot water from the EB. Got there way to early (7:00) but stuck it out and from 8:30 until 9:15 the fish fed and weren't the least bit fussy about what they ate.

Jack M. - You undoubtedly tangled with that Chamber of Commerce brown that just everyone has been catching but your observations are spot on. Early in the hatch, especially in the riffs the fish are feeding almost exclusively on nymphs. The rises are caused by fish taking a nymph near the surface, turning and returning to their lie. The rise is a boil and sometimes a little splashy. The rises we dry fly fishermen want to see are the ones where the trout's nose comes out of the water with an audible glop and a fly disappears. These rises are more common during the latter part of the hatch when there are fewer nymphs in the water and the fish turn their attention to  the duns. You should always be looking for fish feeding on top as they are the ones most likely to eat your fly. 

Jim N. - Right now nothing consistently produces takes. Take the time to look at the water during the hatch, there are flies sitting upright with wings open, ones with wings closed. some flat on the water like spinners, some still with their feet in the nymph husk, some with genetic defects, some that have just been blown over (they are all the real thing). I take flies home, refrigerate them overnight and use them for models the next morning. If you are a tier the options are endless.  If you are buying your flies, get a pair of fly tying scissors and  trim where necessary to get the flies looking right. Don't waste time fishing with flies that don't at least get a refusal.

4 comments

  • Jim N: July 29, 2022

    Coming back to flies…,
    In your years of tying and fishing, are there any styles of sulphurs or olives that work best? Parachutes/Comparadun?

    Do you tie in tails…is so what style…clump, split, Antron shuck?

    What are your preferred wing materials..CDC or ???

    Just looking to gain some additional insights as a fly tier and Sulphur zone junkie.

  • Ed Smitj: July 21, 2022

    Angler 119 -Thanks for your advice . Fished up in the “zone” yesterday and had a lot of fun . Fished angling downstream with a smaller fly ( # 20 comparadun ) lengthened my tippet and managed to catch two nice fish. But I also had more refusals and “takes “ than ever before. The afternoon hatch wasn’t very strong and lasted from about 12:30 till2;30 with some stragglers feeding until around 4. There were some small baetis on the water (#24) Tried one with no success. Also saw a few drakes???They weren’t ISOs Almost looked like green drakes but a little smaller? Thanks again . Hope to return in two weeks and give another try.

  • Dennis: July 20, 2022

    A119 when you fish in the morning what time do you usually head out? Is it better very early (6am) or mid morning. Are you fishing in the sulfur zone then or other places.
    Sorry for all the questions but inquiring minds want to know.
    Another great Blog

  • Greg Tarris: July 20, 2022

    Hit the sulfur hatch on West Branch. Found the best flt fly and actually caught and landed 8 in 6 hours of fishing lol, largest 15 inches. Was a comparadun size 18, sparse body that was almost white to pale green. Not exactly a sulphur or yellow color . The flies on the water also had that body shade towards pale green on part of the body. Who knows what will work tomorrow?

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